{"id":7259,"date":"2016-10-19T15:05:17","date_gmt":"2016-10-19T14:05:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.theoillamp.co.uk\/?p=7259"},"modified":"2016-10-19T15:05:17","modified_gmt":"2016-10-19T14:05:17","slug":"bikes-on-trains","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.theoillamp.co.uk\/?p=7259","title":{"rendered":"Bikes on trains"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theoillamp.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/2016-09-14-17.16.481.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-7263\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theoillamp.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/2016-09-14-17.16.481-221x300.jpg\" alt=\"2016-09-14-17-16-48\" width=\"221\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theoillamp.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/2016-09-14-17.16.481-221x300.jpg 221w, https:\/\/www.theoillamp.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/2016-09-14-17.16.481-754x1024.jpg 754w, https:\/\/www.theoillamp.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/2016-09-14-17.16.481.jpg 1685w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 221px) 100vw, 221px\" \/><\/a>One of the big complaints amongst cyclists in the UK is about bikes on trains.\u00a0 I have been undertaking an internship with a view to rebooting my career, which involves cycle\/train\/long cycle.\u00a0 People here think getting bikes on trains is a real problem and everyone I have talked to asks me if I have any problem getting my bike on the train.\u00a0 However both from my experience and talking to other people this is much less of a problem than you would think and much less of a problem than in Europe.<\/p>\n<p>The whole <strong>Eurostar<\/strong> row broke just before I cycled to Paris for the climate talks.\u00a0 Eurostar wanted cyclists to partly dismantle their bikes to put them in the carriage.\u00a0 They already wanted to you wrap them up in a box or a bag if taking them on borad yourself (and probably still do) after dropping the dismantling idea after much protest from cyclists all over Europe.\u00a0 But Eurostar have a fairly European attitude to bikes.\u00a0 You can send your bike as freight on the train (which we did on the way back from Paris).\u00a0 The bikes were not damaged and were waiting for us in London.\u00a0 However you cannot do this part route only to and from London\/Brussels\/Paris.\u00a0 This idea is again fairly typically continental European.\u00a0 Bikes on SNCF we found many years ago do not necessarily go on the same train as you.\u00a0 For us one way this involved the extra cost of a hotel whilst we waited for our bikes to catch up with us.\u00a0 (And the bike was damaged a bit on arrival).\u00a0 Talking to one of my fellow Paris cyclists the situation in Germany is the same.<\/p>\n<p>Then the <strong>commuting<\/strong> situation is not great either.\u00a0 We discovered we could not take our bikes on the RER years ago (although the situation has changed I think)*.\u00a0 Certainly in Paris last November I checked and we could not take our bikes on trains during peak commuting hours.\u00a0 Whilst I can understand this at one level, surely this is the most useful time for most people?<\/p>\n<p>Contrast this with here.\u00a0 Getting me bike to London on my way to Paris and out to Surrey to start cycling was easy.\u00a0 Virgin East Coast do not charge for carrying bikes.\u00a0 When you book your ticket you simply add it in as an option (some other operators do charge on inter city).\u00a0 The bike goes in the guards van with you.\u00a0 I was effusive with my thanks on social media.\u00a0 Getting the bike out to Surrey was as easy as putting it in the right carriage on the commuting train.\u00a0 Here Scotrail make commuting with bikes easy, its free and on my train whilst there is a designated bike area you can put them by any door.\u00a0 So far its been no hassle and lots of us do the same every day.\u00a0 If only I could say the same for the cycle at the other end&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Neil<\/p>\n<p>*Farcically on the way out we did somehow get away with it.\u00a0 One the way back they refused which led to us cycling through the streets of Paris- a terrifying experience repeated last November (2015) and no better for the provision of the velibs and cycle lanes.\u00a0 This led to a whole series of adventures 20 odd years ago which involved a puncture, an attempted mugging, my wife thinking she had lost the stone in her engagement ring, had all her cards stolen etc.\u00a0 None of which turned out to be the case&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the big complaints amongst cyclists in the UK is about bikes on trains.\u00a0 I have been undertaking an internship with a view to rebooting my career, which involves cycle\/train\/long cycle.\u00a0 People here think getting bikes on trains is &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theoillamp.co.uk\/?p=7259\">Continue reading <span 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